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Where Are All The Hard Yoga Classes?
May 29, 2008, 3:47 pm
Filed under: Yoga Musings, Yoga News

I read this interesting article today about the lack of difficult/challenging yoga classes out there for advanced practitioners. (Thanks, Eric, for sending it to me.) This was a particularly interesting read for me because I have been frequently frustrated by how hard it is to find a strong and challenging yoga class these days, even in large cities where yoga is very popular. What’s going on? You’d think with the growing popularity of yoga, there would be more, not fewer, advanced yoga classes around.

Basically, what this article points out is that with the recent yoga boom over the past, say, three to four years, yoga studios are finding that they have to cater to newer, less-experienced students. This is the best way for them to keep their classes as full as possible. Advanced students make up a minority of yoga students out there, and, given this reality, it would just be bad business for a studio to only (or mostly) offer advanced classes.

But there are some serious downsides to this.

At my local studio, I find that they are having a difficult time striking a balance between keeping the seasoned practitioners happy and making sure the waves of new students have plenty of classes to attend. The result, unfortunately, it oftentimes a lot of watered down (i.e. easy) classes which are advertised as Level 2/3 or Level 2 when, in fact, they are really just Level 1 or Level 1/2 classes consisting of fewer poses than the Ashtanga primary series. This false advertisement (and the attendant disappointment) really aggravates advanced students, and lately I’ve been hearing a lot of grumbling about this in the locker room at my studio.

Another downside to this mixing of advanced students and newer students is that a lot of the newer students get the wrong idea in their heads about what it is to be “advanced”. Many of the more experienced students who attend easier classes (because that’s mostly what’s offered these days) just learn to do their own thing; when the newer students see this, they sometimes try to imitate the more advanced students. This frequently results in a very unsafe environment where, say, newer students start trying to kick up into handstand in the middle of Sun Salutations because they see someone else doing that.

So what can be done about this lack of advanced classes? Well, there are a number of funny things happening in LA to fill the void of (truly) advanced classes. One interesting thing is a kind of “underground” yoga movement, catering to advanced students. I know of at least two situations like this here in LA where, for a small fee, advanced students can go and practice in a semi-private environment with a very good, dedicated, advanced teacher. These classes are frequently not advertised, and are run out of places like people’s apartments, or at studios during their downtimes (i.e. the middle of the day or mid-morning). Of course, this is not the ideal situation for advanced students, but it’s something.

So should studios get their act together and start offering more advanced classes? Well, maybe yes, and maybe no. Hopefully all these millions of people who are coming to yoga are getting better over time, and, although they might not yet be advanced enough to do a “real” Level 2/3 class, presumably some of them will be soon enough. I am hopeful that yoga is just going through an awkward phase now, a period of “growing pains”, where the older yogis are finding themselves neglected as yoga goes more and more mainstream. But eventually this should come full circle. If what’s happened with skateboarding, snowboarding, etc. is any indication, there’s hope that yoga will become so popular that there will soon be a sizable demand for very advanced classes, enough of a demand to justify more (truly) advanced classes at mainstream studios.


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I live in Atlanta, and I am having the same issues. I’m not necessarily super advanced, but I do like a challenging class. The ashtanga studio where I practice only has one class during the day, and having two school-aged kids makes it pretty hard for me to get to that studio at night. The studio closest to me that offers a mix of classes – mostly hot yoga, a few vinyasa, and pilates mat – has a few instructors that teach a challenging class but mostly seems to cater to new people or those who want a very gentle, restorative yoga.

I was talking with a teacher at that studio a few months back, bemoaning the lack of challenging classes and a lack of ashtanga classes specifically, and he theorized that so many people beginning yoga are overweight, that teachers shy away from any practice that involves chattarungas – they are intimidating, and most people are too hip-heavy to be able to do one.

Whatever the reason, it’s discouraging. I attempt a home practice now and again, but I struggle with motivation – there’s something about the energy in a group practice that really inspires me.

Comment by kayla

My studio tends to have the opposite problem. For many of the teachers (especially the studio owners classes)…..even the Level 1.5 or Level 2 classes (my studio is a Baptiste Power Vinyasa Studio) are super challenging!

Typically, for these classes we will go into a pose (say Warrior II), and the teachers will spend a lot of time adjusting and helping the newer students. As a result, those that go into the pose deeply and directly get quite the workout!

A few 3-4 minute Warrior II’s and a few 1-2 minute crows will kick anyone’s but I think.

I am an experienced yogi, but even then I end up modifying poses to make it through class.

I don’t see this as a problem at all…it is what it is. Modifications make every class accessible for everyone.

BTW…are you going to the yoga journal conference in Colorado this Sept?

I am probably gonna be there. Would be cool to meet you!

Ravi

Comment by Ravi

You are referring to “advanced” in the context of the Ashtanga System. Many people who have been practing for 20 years would not meet your criteron for “advanced.” Just go to an Ashtanga studio and do a Mysore class or practice on your own. Self-practice, by the way, is a really good indicator of how advanced your practice is.

Comment by Emily

Since when is yoga about advance poses? I don’t get this Asana craze. I know that the problem here is not enough advance classes..but why do you need to have so many? Historically these poses we practice like warrior were not even around..in fact warrior poses are sorta new. (Sorry about my typing…can’t find my glasses) I feel that yoga has become to trendy.
I think because we westerns are obsessed with the body. Asana’s are just a speck of yoga.and were only designed to get the body comfortable for long periods of meditation. Now there is a question..Why is there not a lot of meditation classes??

Peace

Comment by Andrea

I started with flow & ashtanga, in which the teacher practiced in front & the sequences never stopped. for me it was meditative and also invigorating, similar to runner’s high–i could not worry or be distracted. when i took a level one class, I found i’d just been snapping through chattarunga, etc. and,like Ravi, found holding the poses while others were taught& corrected to be more of a challenge than a vinyasa class, which, it turns out, was more of a cardioworkout than a body awareness experience or a union of breath and movement. Plus, I realized the power teacher did not correct, possibly because we were going to fast for teacher to watch, possibly because teacher was enjoying his/her own practice & modeling was the extent of the teaching( but it’s hard for student to watch while student is practicing sequence. Now I have my home practice and seek classes/workshops where the teacher has already done their own practice & spends thed class time observing & challenging the students. My favorite teachers are the ones who let the beginners do their best and demonstrate postures by gently correcting the habits of the “advanced” or showing not safe/safe on their own bodies.

Comment by Sarita

I agree with Andrea. While I am able to practice advanced asana myself, my studio caters to students thirsty for more meditation & the spiritual aspects of yoga. I recently commented in a gentle, restorative class that an advanced yogi to me is one who is able to calm the monkey-mind and is secure in the stillness, not one who can practice amazing arm balances or float through the air effortlessly, after all, many of these people have a background in some other physical discipline like gymnastics or dance. I had a student come to me recently after trying other, more rigorous studios in the area and said,”This yoga yout studio teaches is harder, anyone can do that other stuff” meaning Power/Vinyasa) and yet another said after an Mixed Level Eclectic Hatha Yoga class, he felt muscles worked he had never felt before (he too had been practicing Power/Vinyasa yoga). I suppose it depends on what population you wish to reach? For us, it’s those who want the spiritual & meditative side, as well as detailed instruction on form in asana. With this comes students from Beginners to Advanced in Asana. What we do is teach in “stages” in all of our classes and hopefully, as we grow we can offer more advanced asana classes. for now though, I am marveling at the advancement of our students on the spiritual & meditative level.

Comment by DeAnna

It’s never a bad thing to get back to the basics. The subtleties of a good triangle pose can be lost when we are distracted by getting into more and more complicated poses. Nevertheless, it doesn’t make sense that you be always stuck in a beginner class. I agree that the majority of the population is at the beginner stage, so we teach to that. Also, what I have found, is that the people in my classes who consider themselves “advanced” often have other work that is getting neglected. Like they can muscle their way through a strenuous Bikram class, but their shoulders are so tight they can’t do eagle arms. (Just a personal note there, it’s not a firm rule.)Also, I wonder about the liability issues. It’s a sad thing that as yoga asana explodes, so do the lawsuits.

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